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Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:35 pm
by joby
I'm just gonna post that here cuz it was so fucking sweet and also just generally feels related to the tone of this album and the creative stage avey is at. such a generous response to that question <3
Q:
wrote:
I have some pretty heavy general anxiety and depression that keeps me from doing things I love. Sometimes when I listen to your music it makes me imagine what it would be like to let go of that anxiety and just live freely and just kind of explode and shine. Do you have any advice for someone who's always stuck in their head, and would like to create music but is so extremely judgmental of themselves that they can't seem to start to write songs? When songs like Street Flash already exist, why even try" is kind of my sentiment. , I thank you.
A:
wrote:
The reality is I'm just like you and So is Noah and so is Brian and So is Josh. I can't tell you the number of times I've gone to sleep after a show thinking "I'm shit, I'm no good why should i even do this anymore". From your perspective You may say "yeah right dude whatever". But the truth is that those kind of struggles are real. Sometimes even collectively we don't realize how much anxiety and stress we are holding onto. For me it helps to breath and just to be aware of that stuff and realize you actually can let it go. You have something worth sharing you jut have to figure out how to get it out there. There really is nothing at stake. It can't hurt you to try. I've done what I've done cause i just worked at it for years and didn't stop but i still have doubts. I still hear records and think damn ill never make anything that good. But it shouldn't stop you from expressing yourself. I hope this helps. I think it is crucial of finding ways to get out of your head. The stuff i write about i really believe in. I do want to be like water and reflect everything around me. To me that means getting out of my head and just existing and experiencing life as it really is.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:45 pm
by Stanshant
But in a good way. I really love what AC have brought to my life.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:57 pm
by northernchild
speen wrote:
Interesting that this release has a higher metacritic score than any other avey or panda solo release, and any other animal collective release except for MPP
Only 5 reviews so far though :/
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:04 pm
by Hellomark
Yeah wtf, this album is an actual gem and it's getting slept on.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:21 pm
by spoogn
Hellomark wrote:
Yeah wtf, this album is an actual gem and it's getting slept on.
don't know how many sites reviewed buoys but i feel the same about that one. i felt hardly any response to it outside this site and facebook/reddit. Ok back to cows discussion sorry for the derail
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:16 am
by terrestrialjane
cow rank
1. all songs + bonus
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:42 am
by terrestrialjane
i hope this man just confirmed they'll play turn into something upcoming tour
its just a stupid fan theory and yet ...
(from the ama)
i think growing up together helped. Even as kids we made stuff together or were involved in learning about art and making art together. So i think it's just developed over time. Now a days for AC or my own stuff ill usually have an idea then just present it to her and she'll kind of go from there and turn it into something real.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:37 am
by jetski
heres my alt artwork for the album
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:06 am
by roopn
Finally!
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:43 am
by IkoOvo
holy shit Tipped in Hugs reminds me of deerhunter in the best/weirdest way
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:47 am
by IkoOvo
also dave is the fucking king of instant classic albums
so many iconic moments on here
HOWS IT GOOOOOOIIIINNN
KC KC DE DE DDEEE
MY ONLYYY LEMONAADE
and chilly blue, goddamn
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:11 pm
by jetski
IkoOvo wrote:
holy shit Tipped in Hugs reminds me of deerhunter in the best/weirdest way
yes!! I can def imagine Bradford singing it. Can't get enough of this song
There are other moments that are Deerhunter/Atlas Sound-like that some ppl mentioned like the whole last part of Goodside. Totally agree there are so many instantly iconic moments on the album
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:13 pm
by jetski
I swear I've heard the noise at the beginning of Chilly Blue somewhere before. I can't check rn but maybe he used it in a transition at the Chicago 2017 show? That's the boot I've heard the most
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:26 pm
by lyphe.s
jetski wrote:
I swear I've heard the noise at the beginning of Chilly Blue somewhere before. I can't check rn but maybe he used it in a transition at the Chicago 2017 show? That's the boot I've heard the most
My most fond recording of all the Euc shows was The Chapel, 10/12/17. I listen to this shit like an actual record, and in my mind, it truly took the cake for some reason. Just something about that performance is so stitched together in a perfect sense. At the beginning of Saturdays he introduces the Chilly Blue sample and leads it into the Saturdays sample. I'm sure it's floating around here and there in the performances to come, but I hope that helps jetzgee
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:29 pm
by jetski
^sweet yeah thats exactly what I was thinking. It's a really nice sound so I'm glad he used it on the record
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:14 pm
by yaava
what's the goodside has to be my favorite song in recent memory. i was originally expecting this album to be a lot more gritty like the mothlight boot but the dreamy vibe that it became is really nice.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:21 pm
by utensilvirus
jetski wrote:
IkoOvo wrote:
holy shit Tipped in Hugs reminds me of deerhunter in the best/weirdest way
yes!! I can def imagine Bradford singing it. Can't get enough of this song
There are other moments that are Deerhunter/Atlas Sound-like that some ppl mentioned like the whole last part of Goodside. Totally agree there are so many instantly iconic moments on the album
I noticed some similarities too. The one the struck me is the track Taken Boy and Deerhunter's Revival. Not complaining, Taken Boy is def it's own song and I'm a fan of both Avey + projects and Bradford + projects. It'd be sweet to see them do a collab, especially after that improv tease at that Deerhunter show.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:09 am
by BoomCheese
utensilvirus wrote:
jetski wrote:
IkoOvo wrote:
holy shit Tipped in Hugs reminds me of deerhunter in the best/weirdest way
yes!! I can def imagine Bradford singing it. Can't get enough of this song
There are other moments that are Deerhunter/Atlas Sound-like that some ppl mentioned like the whole last part of Goodside. Totally agree there are so many instantly iconic moments on the album
I noticed some similarities too. The one the struck me is the track Taken Boy and Deerhunter's Revival. Not complaining, Taken Boy is def it's own song and I'm a fan of both Avey + projects and Bradford + projects. It'd be sweet to see them do a collab, especially after that improv tease at that Deerhunter show.
A Bradford-Avey collab is the stuff of dreams for me (evidently). Love that they seem like such different people (at least interpersonally) but both have so much respect for each other and the DH and AC boys seem to have a mad friendship.
And yeah What's The Goodside? is truly an incredible song that I can't get enough of. Doubt it'll ever pip Laughing Hiero for me but gee it's up there. Hearing a song that's so good that you get excited to listen to whenever you get a chance to put your earbuds in is something that doesn't come around (for me at least) all that often.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:32 am
by roopn
holding your head in your
haaands
favourite line on the album
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:36 am
by partner
I just heard the complete shred in the last 40 seconds of chilly for the first time
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:08 am
by awesome
from the pitchfork review, lol
wrote:
This is far from Avey Tare at his most outgoing—it’s miles away from the boisterous “Chores,” say—but the melodies are more direct than they were on Eucalyptus, even when the underlying chords scrape at oblique angles.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:19 am
by BoomCheese
Pitchfork review is bs. 7.0
Don't care for Pfork these days but was quietly hoping (not expecting) a cheeky 8.5 or so for this one cause I want everyone to be as amped about it as I am.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:03 pm
by jetski
hypo's wrote:
lmfao
marry me
<3
yall who gives a fuck about pitchfork rating or review it literally doesn't matter
Avey is an established artist at this point, it's not like he's starving for promo or something
I know we all love this music and we want it to get properly recognized but pitchfork is way way waaay less important than you think it is. just ignore the review and enjoy the album there's no reason why you need to pay attention to it
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:06 pm
by Dallou
jetski wrote:
hypo's wrote:
lmfao
marry me
<3
yall who gives a fuck about pitchfork rating or review it literally doesn't matter
Avey is an established artist at this point and it's not like he needs the promo
I know we all love this music and we want it to get properly recognized bht pitchfork is way way waaay less important than you think it is. just ignore the review and enjoy the album there's no reason why you need to pay attention to it
also when I paid attention to pitchfork rating (8 years ago or something), a 7 would definitly be a require listen for me.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:08 pm
by jetski
^yeah it's a good rating! People think anything less than an 8 is a failing grade lol
It would be more clear if they used a 5-star rating scale instead, which would make this album get 3&1/2 stars, not bad at all
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:34 pm
by BoomCheese
Yeah it's all g I'm not fussed.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:54 pm
by jetski
cool. sorry I kinda singled you out there, your post about the rating was actually extremely reasonable lol. I'm just really opinionated abt this and mention it at any chance I get
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:29 pm
by Dallou
normally it's the moment you share the article from one of the matmos bouys
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:50 pm
by jetski
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:55 pm
by jordanrandall
Everyone's entitled to their opinion and having a better understanding of AC and Avey Tare definitely gives the album an enhanced quality to that of the casual listener. But Pitchfork are still dummies for not doing adequate research. Saying Avey doesn't sound as boisterous as he did on Chores is mindblowing.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:31 pm
by partner
jordanrandall wrote:
Saying Avey doesn't sound as boisterous as he did on Chores is mindblowing.
Few things less mindblowing than a music critic saying something ignorant
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:11 pm
by speen
Pitchfork isn't worth anyones time now, I thought this was common knowledge
This album rules
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:23 pm
by FitterHappier113
Pitchfork wrote:
fast, colorful cars on a curvy road, their windshields bug-spattered Rorschach blots.
I thought they were going to make a CHz burrito ref when I read the word "windshields"
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:31 pm
by jordanrandall
Haha they got rid of the Avey doesn't sound like how he sounded when he was Panda Bear on Chores part. Such dummies.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:36 pm
by scrambledgreggs
"Eyes on Eyes" just finally clicked for me in a major way. awesome song!
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:41 pm
by alvinrowx
The album is quite beautiful but in an almost too conventional way, to me. I don't get really excited by it, apart from some moments or elements like Nostalgia in Lemonade, What's the goodside?'s last part or K.C. Yours.
I like the fact that it's more balanced than Eucalyptus though, but I can't find anything as complex, beautiful and rich as Melody Unfair, Ms. Secret or Season High. I have dreamt to hear an entire album full of songs like that... The loose structures of those songs were what made it more alive, to me. Cows' songs are kind of static in comparison. For the same reasons, I also prefer some tracks of Tangerine Reef (Palythoa, Inspector Gadget, Buxom, Best of Times...)
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:33 pm
by BoomCheese
jetski wrote:
cool. sorry I kinda singled you out there, your post about the rating was actually extremely reasonable lol. I'm just really opinionated abt this and mention it at any chance I get
Haha nah you’re good I didn’t take offence! I have basically the same opinion about it.
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:55 pm
by Stanshant
I can't sleep because of that p4k review. Ragin here in the foetal position
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:11 am
by ingenue
My brother, who hasn’t paid much attention to AC or AC-related projects since MPP, loves Cows, which basically confirms my suspicion that this is the best AC record since Down There. If this isn’t “the magic” I don’t know what is!
Re: Avey Tare - Cows On Hourglass Pond
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:29 am
by ingenue
Just noticed Avey hums the same melody as the bass line under the “let em know I’ll follow with ya” part in “Mayan,” but it’s so buried in the mix you can barely discern it. Avey loves to bury beautiful stuff.