Collected Animals

LitG was like my least favorite track on PW, but I'm really digging how it sounds live and with the energy given to it.

interview with noah
http://fasterlouder.junkee.com/animal-c ... -go/858059

Interesting bit about the bass here

‘The Burglars’ made me think of video game music or chiptune. Is that something you’ve thought much about for inspiration?

It’s definitely something we’ve thought about. I do love video games. I think where the quality of that sound comes from is this little OP-1 synthesiser I have, which is responsible for most of the bass sounds on the record. It’s got real cutting electronic sounds.

he's been reppin that op-1 for like 3 years now

Godzilla and ingenue, I'll see you in salt lake! Can't wait to see how they do these live . Been loving this record more and more with each listen . Hope everyone is well!

I might make it out as well

We recorded Gnip Gnop last night. Sorry for the delay!

nice

how could anyone think that the band wanted to make people feel the same way spirit or sung tongs or feels made them feel when they listen to this record? ingenue's post is spot on and i hope people take something from it. this record is wonderful, emotive, personal, powerful, fun, loopy, hectic, pristine; genuinely great. it's also at least ten years removed from any of those records. anyway, if this record makes you feel a way unlike any of their other albums, why would you not consider that a good thing? isn't that what being a fan of this band is all about? it's a lot easier than people think to find something you like about any work of art. being so dismissive of this record is something i didn't think posters on this forum would do. and i dont mean to throw anyone under the bus or critique anyone's experience of this band or record, but i think that down the road a lot of ppl will regard their initial attitudes toward this record as silly. beating a dead horse i know, but a lot of people just need to get their feelings out there, me included, and i am glad to know that discussion of this album on this forum has been predominantly positive and constructive. its not bad to have a dissenting opinion, and i dont want to silence any of those dissenting opinions. any perspective is a valuable one. but i just think this album has a ton to offer, especially to fans. love all of u, no exceptions, and i'm so grateful for this website and this band. love n peace

ingenue wrote:

See you in Salt Lake on 3/2?

Nice post! Matches my feels exactly. And I'll see you there!

Thanks! I've got an extra ticket btw if any of you mountain people are looking for one.

I live in Vegas...def thinking about going to SLC show. Never been to Utah before tho!

went to dc for the weekend (it was beautiful out, like mid 60s and sunny on saturday) and walked/biked around with painting with in my ears and every track seemed to work really well in that listening environment. summing the wretch, spilling guts, and natural selection have really grown on me and somehow veritcal has gotten even better with time. love this album so much!

I know prolly nobody cares but my Deluxe finally arrived and I'm very happy

I'm not even gonna listen though cause I have a poo Crosley, so I'm gonna wait until I have better equipment.

No way am I going to Taint the Paint

hey some crosleys arent that bad. but ya my fam bought one for me for xmas one year and it was horrible... had to return it.... but ya this thing sounds amazing on headphones/vinyl

yeah you get what you pay for with the Crosley but the portable ones are fun to bring outside or to my office. it's a helpful way for me to listen to records more.

I'm expecting mine today also. The shipping label was created on the 13th so I don't know why it took so long to get from MI to CA. I also cannot believe they are sending out the 7' out separately. I thought that was the main point for the deluxe package.

Yeah sorry didn't mean to totally shit on Croslezz, I got a portable as a gift as well but it totally fucked up my sung tongs record, hence the BITTERNESS. anyways, still stoked about the slipmat and all............
And the NYC show tomorrow night!!!

Not to derail, but what IS a good brand. I have a Crossley that I bought because it had a tape deck too (which was semi-rare when I first bought it, but pretty common now), but I'm looking for something else.

Also, to keep this on topic...I haven't heard
yet on the boots. Which one do people like better?

starting to feel like i really underrated this
takes multiple multiple listens to kinda 'accept' the bombast and stuff it into the background so you can notice there are some well written songs behind it

Not to derail, but what IS a good brand. I have a Crossley that I bought because it had a tape deck too (which was semi-rare when I first bought it, but pretty common now), but I'm looking for something else.

http://uturnaudio.com/

Mine came in the mail today too (Toronto here)

Listened to Side A out loud on my old Panasonic Speakers, currently listening to Side B slowed down by like 40-50%. Holy fuck, idc this is blasphemy, but the second half sounds soooo good slowed down (Bagels and Spilling Guts in particular). There's just more time to notice the things in background, and melodies and such. Bagels was soooo calming too. I recommend listening to PW slowed down to any fans of the record/anyone having a hard time "clicking" with the songs.

I have an AT LP-120, its midrange price-wise, and fairly hi-fi.

For heavier LP's and records with heavy bass/beats, I would absolutely not recommend the Crosley series, or really any turntable that uses the NP1 style needle. It will skip like crazy and scratch your records. I ruined a few amazing records using these types of turntables

As for PW, I'm still enjoying it, and it continues to reveal itself to me!! Great album. I feel like this turntable discussion derailment is necessary since records are really important

Yes! Thank you guys and gals this info helps a ton! And yeah anthro that's basically what happened

I'm gonna look into all the above mentioned players. I'm bringing my PW to a friends house in the city who has a good setup. Gotta listen ASAP! And I shall stay in the city until the show tomorrowwwwwww

Not to derail, but what IS a good brand. I have a Crossley that I bought because it had a tape deck too (which was semi-rare when I first bought it, but pretty common now), but I'm looking for something else.

I spent what you'd call a 'mid-range' amount a couple of years back on a setup that's still singing really nicely. I went for a Project Debut Carbon (the current models come with a great needle too) and power it through a Denon PMA720AE (although, given the choice again, would happily go for the PMA520AE - the extra power from the 720 isn't really needed).

Really love it, and the sound is great. Another good turntable choice around that price range is the Rega RP1 - I went for the Project over it just because I'd heard of a few more quality control issues with the Rega over the Project.

This is excellent info. Thanks, everyone. Gonna do some shopping this weekend.

I have a Debut Carbon too, they're really nice. Only problem is you can't easily change the speed. You have to take the whole platter off and manually change the band. It's only annoying if you have a record that switches between 33 and 45 speeds like an EP though.

i keep getting the "I start to wonder does this system matter? Only if it's vertical" part stuck in my head

Everything else fails to captivate me or enjoy.

You should feel lucky. All 12 songs fail to captivte me... i won't say i tried the harder to like the songs because it's not true. But i don't see why it would need more than 3 days to make my opinion on the record like someone said...

You should feel lucky. All 12 songs fail to captivte me... i won't say i tried the harder to like the songs because it's not true. But i don't see why it would need more than 3 days to make my opinion on the record like someone said...

takes me years to love albums sometimes

doesn't mean they're bad

Yes it's true but the probability is very low when even after lets say 5 listens you couldn't find a single song to like....

Just to be clear, not saying the album is bad. No doubt it can be enjoyed. AC wouldn't have released it if it wasn't

the panda bear songs on this album have to be the biggest song-writing departure ever for the band, and it doesn't always work. hocus pocus, summing the wretch, and recycling are all really cool tracks. spilling guts is fun (it would overstay its welcome if it were any longer), lying in the grass is another fine track i think, the sample of avey's (i think it's him moaning at least) is weird but i like the song anyway and the last 30 seconds are what i wish most of the album sounded like. Natural selection might end up being my least favorite pb song ever... it's got almost an edm vibe to it (that doesn't work) and kind of annoys me. when the hocketing is used so much it gets overwhelming (especially on this song).
their comments about the album seem like they ditched reverb (and replaced it with hocketing) bc so many people are doing it now but earlier in their careers they never would have let what other bands are doing affect their output. They never did or did not do something because of what others are or not doing. Instead, they would always claim to make whatever they felt like making. now it feels like they felt forced to ditch reverb, an effect that panda especially relied on for his songwriting. Ditching reverb made him totally rework how he has to structure his vocals and rhythms, and like i said earlier it doesn't always work. he's REALLY GOOD at writing drawn out, reverbed melodies, and he didn't let himself use that on this album. I could obviously be wrong and he might just love the fuck out of that effect but that's not how it seems. the guys should make whatever they want, it just seems like they didn't allow themselves to do that this time.

I have to say I needed to listen to the whole record with headphones twice for me to fall head over heels for it.

First listen, I just really wanted things to last longer I think.

Second listen I followed along with lyrics (thanks emceegreg!) and it was a pure delight. Now each playthrough is a new discovery in the layers and a wonderful ride each time. Reminds me of my personal experience riding the rollercoaster, The Beast at Kings Island. The first time I barely remember it and felt it was too short and abrasive, I remember telling my friends I hated it right afterwards but we went on it again and I had a blast. Each consecutive ride years afterwards was an appreciation for the smaller details in the ride (the way things moved, the anticipation built on the climb, etc)

Glad I didn't cave on the samples or bathroom flacs, I think it would have distorted it too much for me (since the songs are so short anyway)

My girlfriend said it overall sounds like "frog farts" after she heard it the first time. She said its not as memorable to her as the previous ones and thinks she liked Centipede Hz more first listen (though we both have a hard time really comparing albums by AC as they are so drastically different)

bentoboxd wrote:

Everything else fails to captivate me or enjoy.

You should feel lucky. All 12 songs fail to captivte me... i won't say i tried the harder to like the songs because it's not true. But i don't see why it would need more than 3 days to make my opinion on the record like someone said...

What are your favorite ac records? jc

I think they said in another thread they only like Sung Tongs, Feels, and SJ.

I dunno why you would join the forum of a band when you only like 3/10 of their albums but...it's a free internet.

the panda bear songs on this album have to be the biggest song-writing departure ever for the band, and it doesn't always work. hocus pocus, summing the wretch, and recycling are all really cool tracks. spilling guts is fun (it would overstay its welcome if it were any longer), lying in the grass is another fine track i think, the sample of avey's (i think it's him moaning at least) is weird but i like the song anyway and the last 30 seconds are what i wish most of the album sounded like. Natural selection might end up being my least favorite pb song ever... it's got almost an edm vibe to it (that doesn't work) and kind of annoys me. when the hocketing is used so much it gets overwhelming (especially on this song).
their comments about the album seem like they ditched reverb (and replaced it with hocketing) bc so many people are doing it now but earlier in their careers they never would have let what other bands are doing affect their output. They never did or did not do something because of what others are or not doing. Instead, they would always claim to make whatever they felt like making. now it feels like they felt forced to ditch reverb, an effect that panda especially relied on for his songwriting. Ditching reverb made him totally rework how he has to structure his vocals and rhythms, and like i said earlier it doesn't always work. he's REALLY GOOD at writing drawn out, reverbed melodies, and he didn't let himself use that on this album. I could obviously be wrong and he might just love the fuck out of that effect but that's not how it seems. the guys should make whatever they want, it just seems like they didn't allow themselves to do that this time.

I agree with a lot of this. Good points. Agree on the songs of Panda's you like. I like Summing the Wretch pretty well. But Natural Selection is my least favorite...Not gonna be a popular opinion, but On Delay is yet to click for me too

I find it so weird people don't dig Natural Selection. It's a clear stand out for me. The melody is just sooo fun which is in great contrast with the lyrics about the 'powers that be'. And I REALLY don't get the complaint about hocketing on the song cause it barely has any at all. Like are we even hearing the same song???

they never would have let what other bands are doing affect their output.

Hmmm I see it more as their departure from the norm (that they heavily influenced)... Getting rid of reverb was actually one of my favorite things about this album.

the guys should make whatever they want, it just seems like they didn't allow themselves to do that this time.

Also, lol. They are verrrrrrry proud of this album, so that makes zero sense.

I find it so weird people don't dig Natural Selection. It's a clear stand out for me. The melody is just sooo fun which is in great contrast with the lyrics about the 'powers that be'. And I REALLY don't get the complaint about hocketing on the song cause it barely has any at all. Like are we even hearing the same song???

I'm with you. I would rank it in the middle of the Noah songs

kingo wrote:

they never would have let what other bands are doing affect their output.

Hmmm I see it more as their departure from the norm (that they heavily influenced)... Getting rid of reverb was actually one of my favorite things about this album.

kingo wrote:

the guys should make whatever they want, it just seems like they didn't allow themselves to do that this time.

Also, lol. They are verrrrrrry proud of this album, so that makes zero sense.

of course they're proud of it, i'm just saying in the back of their minds they moved away from reverb because it's popular right now. i guarantee you they still love the songs they wrote and don't even think like "too bad we had to do that stupid hocketing effect so much on this album"