wonder what ol noah thinks of the constant beach boys references when people talk about his music...
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:57 pm
by thegasprices
^ those are awesome... but the nitpicker in me has to mention the diy article qultes mr.noah lyrics as boys latins
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:53 pm
by Sonic boom
IkoOvo wrote:
wonder what ol noah thinks of the constant beach boys references when people talk about his music...
the minute-steak press stuff ?
he thinks the same as everyone - its uber lazy journalism ......
As I 'say to hee-im' ........it's a lazy shortcut ..........
but - its a shortcut for ' sings like a god '.......
Orpheus wuda been jealous....
.....in a good way....
But , if u think about it - these things are a little out of scale ....
Noah & I spent the last 14 months pretty solid on this
- And Noah's time in is closer to 3 years here & there on this ......
......so to try and distil & sum-up & contain 'THAT' into 200 words ? ....??
thats tough , so its easy to see why these short-hands get used .
hear's the tail of Orpheus for those who like mythology .
theres some inter esting parrallells
I love this bit "His skill had far surpassed the fame and respect of his music. Humans and beasts alike would be enchanted by it and often even the most inanimate of objects would yearn to be near him."
Orpheus is known as the most talented music player of the ancient times. It is said that god Apollo was his father, from whom took his extreme talent in music, and the Muse Calliope was his mother. He was living in Thrace, on the northeastern part of Greece. Orpheus had a divinely gifted voice that could charm everyone who heard it. When he was presented first the lyre as a boy, he had it mastered in no time at all. The myth says that no god or mortal could resist his music and even the rocks and trees would move themselves to be near him. According to some ancient texts, Orpheus is accredited to have taught agriculture, writing and medicine to the mankind. He is also attributed with having been an astrologer, a seer and founder of many mystic rites. The strange and ecstatic music of Orpheus would intrigue the mind of people to things over natural and had the power to broaden the mind to new unusual theories. However, apart from a musical talent, Orpheus also had an adventurous character. He was believed to have taken part in the Argonautic expedition, which is the voyage of Jason and his fellow Argonauts to get to Colchis and steal the Golden Fleece. In fact, Orpheus played a vital role during the expedition because, playing his music, he put to sleep the "sleepless dragon" that was guarding the Golden Fleece and thus Jason managed to get the Fleece. Moreover, the music of Orpheus saved the Argonauts from the Sirens, the strange female-like creatures who were seducing men with their nice voice and then they were killing them. Love at first sight Orpheus used to spend much of his early years in the idyllic pursuits of music and poetry. His skill had far surpassed the fame and respect of his music. Humans and beasts alike would be enchanted by it and often even the most inanimate of objects would yearn to be near him. Well into his youth he had mastered the lyre and his melodious voice garnered him audiences from near and afar. It was at one such gathering of humans and beasts that his eyes fell on a wood nymph. The girl was called Eurydice, she was beautiful and shy. She had been drawn to Orpheus enamored by his voice and such was the spell of beauty in music and appearance that neither could cast their eyes off each other. Something inexplicable tugged the hearts of the two young people and soon they feltl dearly in love, unable to spend a single moment apart. After a while, they decided to get married. Their wedding day dawned bright and clear. Hymenaios, the god of marriage, blessed their marriage and then a great feast followed. The surroundings were filled with laughter and gaiety. Soon the shadows grew large, signaling an end to the revelry that had lasted much of the day and the wedding guests all took leave of the newly-weds, who were still sitting hand-in-hand and starry eyed. They soon both realized that it was time they were on their way and departed for home. The snake-bite However, things would soon change and grief would ensue happiness. There was one man who was despising Orpheus and desired Eurydice for his own. Aristaeus, a shepherd, had plotted a plan to conquer the beautiful nymph. And there he was, waiting in the bushes for the young couple to pass by. Seeing that the lovers were approaching, he intended to jump on them and kill Orpheus. As the shepherd made his move, Orpheus grabbed Eurydice by the hand and started running pell-mell through the forest. The chase was long and Aristaeus showed no signs of giving up or slowing down. On and on they ran and suddenly, Orpheus felt Eurydice stumble and fall, her hand slipping from his grasp. Unable to comprehend what had just happened, he rushed to her side but stopped short in dismay, for his eyes perceived the deathly pallor that suffused her cheeks. Looking around, he saw no trace of the shepherd for Aristaeus had witnessed the event and had left. Few steps away, Eurydice had stepped on a nest of snakes and had been bitten by a deadly viper. Knowing that there was no chance of survival, Aristaeus had abandoned his try, cursing his luck and Orpheus. A supernatural plan After the death of his beloved wife, Orpheus was no more the same carefree person he used to be. His life without Eurydice seemed endless and could do nothing more than grief for her. This is when he had a great but yet crazy idea: he decided to go to Underworld and try to get his wife back. Apollo, his father, would talk to Hades, the god of the Underworld, to accept him and hear his plea. Armed with his weapons, the lyre and voice, Orpheus approached Hades and demanded entry into the underworld. None challenged him. Standing in front of the rulers of the dead, Orpheus said why he was there, in a voice both mellifluous and disquieting. He played his lyre and sang out to King Hades and Queen Persephone that Eurydice was returned to him. Not even the most stone-hearted of people or Gods could have neglected the hurt in his voice. Hades openly wept, Persephone's heart melted and even Cerberus, the gigantic three-headed hound guarding the entry to the underworld, covered his many ears with his paws and howled in despair. The voice of Orpheus was so moving that Hades promised to this desperate man that Eurydice would follow him to the Upper World, the world of the living. However, he warned Orpheus that for no reason must he look back while his wife was still in the dark, for that would undo everything he hoped for. He should wait for Eurydice to get into the light before he looked at her. With great faith in his heart and joy in his song, Orpheus began his journey out of the underworld, joyful that he would once again be reunited with his love. As Orpheus was reaching the exit of the Underworld, he could hear the footfalls of his wife approaching him. He wanted to turn around and hug her immediately but managed to control his feelings. As his was approaching the exit, his heart was beating faster and faster. The moment he stepped on the world of the living, he turned his head to hug his wife. Unfortunately, he got only a glimpse of Eurydice before she was once again drawn back into the underworld. When Orpheus turned his head, Eurydice was still in the dark, she hadn't seen the sun and, as Hades had warned Orpheus, his sweet wife was drowned back to the dark world of the dead. Waves of anguish and despair swept over him and shuddering with grief he approached the Underworld again but this time, he was denied entry, the gates were standing shut and god Hermes, sent by Zeus, wouldn't let him in. The death of Orpheus From then on, the heart-broken musician was wandering disoriented, day after day, night after night, in total despair. He could find no consolation in anything. His misfortune tormented him, forcing him to abstain from contact with any other woman and slowly but surely he found himself shunning their company completely. His songs were no more joyful but extremely sad. His only comfort was to lay on a huge rock and feel the caress of the breeze, his only vision were the open skies. And so it was that a group of irate women, furious for his scorn towards them, chanced upon him. Orpheus was so desperate that he did not even try to repulse their advances. The women killed him, cut his body into pieces and threw them and his lyre into a river. It is said that his head and his lyre floated downriver to the island of Lesvos. There the Muses found them and gave Orpheus a proper burial ceremony. People believed that his grave emanated music, plaintive yet beautiful. His soul descended down to Hades where he was finally reunited with his beloved Eurydice.
Source: http://www.greeka.com
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:05 pm
by jetski
Sonic boom wrote:
its a shortcut for ' sings like a god '.......
Orpheus wuda been jealous....
For real though, good point by Pete about how music reviewing is imperfect and shortcuts are necessary. And for people who don't listen to much Panda Bear, saying "beach boys harmonies" give them something to latch on to, even if it's not a perfect description of PB.
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:20 pm
by conswaygo
this has been such a memorable experience.
thanks for everything PK.
much love ^
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:20 pm
by DopplrEffects
This album is excellent but I have a question for Sonic Boom/Noah (or anyone that can answer) :
is this album best experienced with a surround sound system? It seems like a lot of effort went into making the sound 3D but my headphones don't really do it justice. Is the sound encoded in a special way?
Absolutely love Butcher Baker Candlestick Maker. I'm headbanging to this on 11.
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:49 pm
by Sonic boom
Heya . Nope. No special encoding .
Good ear goggles .....or a car if u set up the panning to where u r sitting ?
If it's a hifi , sitting dead central between the speakers .
I have no idea how it translates onto a surround system .....but interesting thought !
Hope that helps petek
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:55 pm
by nevermind
the bass on the right channel on acid wash just blows me away. it's weird cos after so many listens i actually just realised how heavy it was only recently.
motor whirring bass on selfish gene which wobbles in and goes away is also one of my favourite little touches.
the bass on the right channel on acid wash just blows me away. it's weird cos after so many listens i actually just realised how heavy it was only recently.
yes I love that part so much!
reminds me of bjork's cosmogony a bit
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:22 pm
by Sonic boom
nevermind wrote:
the bass on the right channel on acid wash just blows me away. it's weird cos after so many listens i actually just realised how heavy it was only recently.
motor whirring bass on selfish gene which wobbles in and goes away is also one of my favourite little touches.
If u sit I front if dee sent speakers it blows wind across your face from the sub
as the moog resonant filters that make that sound pan from right to left .....
Psyched u gals r digging the dee tail !
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:33 pm
by memememe
We're there any songs that Noah almost put on the LP but ultimately got cut?
Or some that were gonna be left but got put on?
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:37 pm
by Sonic boom
Not really . Not once he figured this sequence , he was sure & it was obvious he'd
come up with a sweet sequence .
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:39 pm
by IkoOvo
luv the dee tails
luv the sea quench
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:41 pm
by highfive
405 interview (don't think this one has been posted yet):
On the subject of drugs, I wanted to talk about Marijuana Makes My Day. What went into the song?
Panda Bear: It’s silly in a way, but more just in terms of its simplicity. I had the sample and the melody, but I didn’t have words for it. I like to smoke weed while I’m working. It’s gotten to the point where, socially, or when I’m around other people, I feel uncomfortable more than anything else when I’m stoned.
There’s a couple of things that I like about it when I’m making stuff - one is that I feel like I can focus on stuff more purely, in a way. I also feel like the critical impulse will be dulled, so I’m not constantly having to reject thoughts about the value of the stuff. It’s more of an untethered stream. I like that about it. I do feel like I need to approach the songs and the sounds from multiple perspectives, but that’s one of them that I like to involve in the process. The song is really about appreciating that effect. It’s how it will give a part of the day for me a specific colour, in a very specific way. I do enjoy the stuff quite a bit!
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:27 pm
by Losercore
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:54 pm
by memememe
I think that's the first interview to mention a b-side?
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:01 pm
by highfive
memememe wrote:
I think that's the first interview to mention a b-side?
Can't watch right now because I'm at work, what does he say about it?
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:12 pm
by memememe
highfive wrote:
memememe wrote:
I think that's the first interview to mention a b-side?
Can't watch right now because I'm at work, what does he say about it?
I meant the dummy mag quote above.
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:20 pm
by highfive
memememe wrote:
highfive wrote:
memememe wrote:
I think that's the first interview to mention a b-side?
Can't watch right now because I'm at work, what does he say about it?
I meant the dummy mag quote above.
Ah! My bad.
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:33 pm
by sledgehammer
Losercore wrote:
since hearing LW I've always thought that the last minute sounds like what lighting up would sound like if it was represented musically. just that crackling and fizzle, it reminds me of the sound of burning weed up real close....I always think to myself 'ahhh panda's torching it'
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:15 pm
by bansheebeaten
Sonic boom wrote:
Humans and beasts alike would be enchanted by it and often even the most inanimate of objects would yearn to be near him."
and this is why I, a potato, get up and go to his shows
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:27 pm
by Losercore
was he doing the werewolf from thriller at like :56?
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:28 pm
by onebraineno
bansheebeaten wrote:
Sonic boom wrote:
Humans and beasts alike would be enchanted by it and often even the most inanimate of objects would yearn to be near him."
and this is why I, a potato, get up and go to his shows
hahahha
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:00 pm
by snowtire
here's the third part of that faceculture interview aziza posted. he talks about acid wash and its pretty sweet
Hm. 9/10 is great and all, but I'm not very into the first 2 sentences:
wrote:
Make no mistake: neither critics, fans, followers or the group themselves seemed overly impressed with Animal Collective's last LP, 2012's Centipede Hz. The album promised a bold back-to-basics approach, but simply delivered the same old sounds found on Feels and Strawberry Jam before it.
a) It's not like all of the critics or fans hated C Hz. Kinda annoying how people continue to spread the myth that C Hz was a huge disappointment just because it wasn't universally beloved like MPP.
b) Has this dude even listened to Feels?
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:53 pm
by Dallou
It doesn't sound at alllll like feels
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:14 pm
by P nu
Has the band said they don't like CHZ? I missed that
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:17 pm
by jetski
I believe there was an interview where Dave mentioned that he wasn't 100% happy with how the album turned out. I can't remember where...I wanna say it was an interview around the time of Slasher Flix' album release but can't remember for sure
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:55 pm
by sertman
i forgot who said it, but someone said that CHz didn't leave enough up to the listener with regards to interpretation... i definitely agreed with that. it was really, really dense and it was hard to get into some of the more "out there" songs on the record because i felt like i needed to tune my brain and emotions to the exact frequency of the song's emotions... which is cool in some ways because songs like applesauce and new town burnout, they're fucking amazing because i'm in personally tune with every sound... but on the weirder stuff, i just can't seem to find the medium because it feels specific to a certain state of mind that i can't find or attach to personal experience
so it's not to say it's bad, but definitely takes more work to make it click
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:59 pm
by paralleoneirdwell
the work creating amazing loops from this album for the web space is making me wonder about some type of project creating loops and mixes from Centipede Hz ^____^ :0
a collectedanimals collection of our own loops and recreatings from this album would also be incredible! there are many already created that are on the web space now but, there are many possibilities left to explore as well!
Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:10 pm
by hear_smiles
I thought this from the very first boots, to the first live show I saw, and now again once the song is released. Butcher Baker Candlestick Maker teases my ear to hear parts/samples of Super Street Fighter IV music, Eclipse. It's extremely smoothened out, a gentle rolling of these echoing synths filling in the backing of the track.
I don't know if anyone else even 'hears it', or if I'm just forever set on hearing this. Wouldn't be the first time!