"Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???


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I bet decent amount of $$$$ that November's tour will be the debut of like 5-6 brand new tunes just sayin. It's May's tour that will probably only have 1-3 new oldies added (I'm still super down for more of the Skiffs sets tbh, im a Skiffs slut)
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a person on reddit claims that there's a new acoustic ambient jam coming out on a compilation:

"since I’m pretty sure there’s an embargo on this (as my googling doesn’t even see a press release for it), I’m going to be very vague, I only heard it bc someone I know shared it with me and I don’t want to get them in trouble. it’s a one off release, has nothing to do with the new album, and isn’t something they’ve played live. It’s very sparse sounding/minimal and pretty and mellow, somewhere between Crestone and Meeting of the Waters and Campfire Songs. I don’t know when it’s coming out, but I would imagine later this year sometime."

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalCollecti ... oys_today/

i won't say too much more but they sent me convincing proof in a dm
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Sick to the back teeth of vinyl bollocks, anyone heard of a lil thing called mp3

Hey we can't release our music video until everyone can have their own individual VHS copy to watch on their CRT telly on the back of their fucking horse and cart

Just release it tomorrow on bandcamp and write some new frigging songs ASAP. November tour will be like going to watch an oldies cover band at this rate.

'Extinct Animal' Collective more like

welcome to the current state of the music industry. nobody buys mp3s anymore but vinyl sells, labels don't have much of a choice but to hold back things for production timelines. not many people are gonna be exactly eager to buy an eight month long IOU for a record so they've gotta find middle ground. the way things are sucks but unfortunately we have to live with it instead of complaining about what domino's decision-making is every five minutes. i'm sure the "real fans" would pay for the MP3s (as everyone should, honestly!) but the majority of folks just want the nice colorful plastic
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I suppose I just don't understand why the digital release and the vinyl release need to be at the same time. The Smile announced their new album today. Digital release in May, vinyl in June. Everyone is happy.
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Whyguy

You're absolutely right, I wasn't being totally serious but yeah point taken.

To be completely honest, I don't care about the shit munchers, only people like us.
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I suppose I just don't understand why the digital release and the vinyl release need to be at the same time. The Smile announced their new album today. Digital release in May, vinyl in June. Everyone is happy.

exactly. so many records have been released successfully in this staggered approach. there's no need to push back a digital release because of vinyl production issues

this keeps happening (Band of Horses/Let's Eat Grandma most recently) and it really annoys me. I buy vinyl all the time and hearing/loving the digital in advance never dissuades me and often even encourages me to buy the vinyl
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If Beach House were able to put out two albums in one year, why can’t AnCo?
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Sub-Pop aren't total bastards
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lhtd wrote:
a person on reddit claims that there's a new acoustic ambient jam coming out on a compilation:

"since I’m pretty sure there’s an embargo on this (as my googling doesn’t even see a press release for it), I’m going to be very vague, I only heard it bc someone I know shared it with me and I don’t want to get them in trouble. it’s a one off release, has nothing to do with the new album, and isn’t something they’ve played live. It’s very sparse sounding/minimal and pretty and mellow, somewhere between Crestone and Meeting of the Waters and Campfire Songs. I don’t know when it’s coming out, but I would imagine later this year sometime."

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalCollecti ... oys_today/

i won't say too much more but they sent me convincing proof in a dm


What was the proof, out of interest? Sounds cool
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he sent a screenshot of the private soundcloud page with the song and its waveform on it and some background info about this being recorded when they practiced for last year's tour. all in all it seemed legit; little reason to think this was all made up
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lhtd wrote:
he sent a screenshot of the private soundcloud page with the song and its waveform on it and some background info about this being recorded when they practiced for last year's tour. all in all it seemed legit; little reason to think this was all made up

Would be interesting if it was at all related to the ambient recording from the Blast Sessions.
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What are people's thoughts on this thing now that they have some additional summer tour dates? I was really hoping for a release this year but I'm feeling like it might not happen anymore.
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Def not this year. Am interested to see if they start introducing new material at any point though
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I don’t think we’re gonna hear new material until Time Skiffs 2 is released. Then there needs to be a period for the band to actually workshop some new stuff. I know this is not the answer that anyone wants to hear. No “”””new””” music until 2023/4
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The only thing about putting this record out next year is I can't really imagine them touring this stuff as heavily beyond this year and putting out a record with no tour feels weird. With how busy their schedule is this year I could almost see them holding off touring again as a full band until like next fall if at all really. Assuming this record is essentially done I feel like there are a lot of release options but I don't know what makes the most sense, also if PB/SB do shows then that messes up the whole thing.

It would suck for those of us in the know and is soooo far away but it could be fun if they just sat on this and dropped it late summer/early fall 2023 and then played a few shows with new stuff. Gives them a lot of time to workshop new band stuff, finish solo records, do solo tours, etc. Doesn't seem like something they'd do but who knows
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lhtd wrote:
a person on reddit claims that there's a new acoustic ambient jam coming out on a compilation:

"since I’m pretty sure there’s an embargo on this (as my googling doesn’t even see a press release for it), I’m going to be very vague, I only heard it bc someone I know shared it with me and I don’t want to get them in trouble. it’s a one off release, has nothing to do with the new album, and isn’t something they’ve played live. It’s very sparse sounding/minimal and pretty and mellow, somewhere between Crestone and Meeting of the Waters and Campfire Songs. I don’t know when it’s coming out, but I would imagine later this year sometime."

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalCollecti ... oys_today/

i won't say too much more but they sent me convincing proof in a dm

I could be wrong but it sounds likely they could be referring to Brown Thrasher, a new AC song coming out in December on the compilation album For the Birds

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/17/arts ... dsong.html
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Yeah he thinks so too
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^^ I think this is the track I was talking about last month where some dude on reddit said he'd heard an ambient song on an upcoming compilation. Stoked!

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Did you guys hear? The title of the new album is Breath of the Wild 2.
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listening to Genie's Open on my friend's row machine (the kind where you push water with a turbine in a barrel) is glorious. might take up sailing so that by the time the next record is released I can be full Ahab when listening to this song
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Just realized: we haven't heard Kings Walk in a long time, right?
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they played king's walk in columbus, it sounds great. still hoping it's either the opener or the mid-point of the record
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Not familiar with any new stuff besides defeat. Heard Gem and I at the Greek and it ripped massively. I think this one’s gonna be better than skiffs
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If they went in the studio would this have been their moon & antarctica?

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my brain swells just thinking about how massive this record is going to be

time skiffs feels like a "return" of some kind, but Skiffs 2 is when AC is going to blow the doors off this motherfucking ship and i don't think i'm quite ready for a monumental moment like this -- my hype feels about as high as it was for MPP ... this is capital-S SPECIAL material...

and this absolutely NEEDS to be released in 2023. we need to give some space for TS, and 2022 has already been stacked, so let's give 2023 all to AC to claim & Rule
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Dave’s IG posts today are interesting.
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Yeah, very curious about that. Guessing he's not referring to TS2 stuff though, since that wasn't recorded at dropofsun. I'm guessing it's solo stuff.
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Maybe BITS is the album title acronym? (Back in the sea? Bread is the son)

Also looks like they’re going through rehearsal footage at drop of sun

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Worried they're going to put out an EP to buy time between releases
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^i wouldn't mind that if we get some good tracks!

the color palette in the first picture looks very time skiffs-esque but then what he makes with it in the last photo does not

yeah drop of sun plus it being on avey's account makes me think it is solo stuff, that's crazy maybe we will get new avey and new panda before LP2

is that definitely dave on the right? if it was noah or josh thatd be the only sign to me that this is AC related rather than solo stuff imo
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I remember in the AMA they said there would be demos coming eventually, maybe that's what BITS is? Sounds like a very demos-collection name to me
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Back in the saddle :yeehaw:
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bros in the studio
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jesus fuck imagine when this comes out and we listen to gem, magicians, and defeat studio for the first time. i am 10000% more hyped for this album than time skiffs.

i want it to be LOUD. i want the gem and i chorus to fucking explode. it's the best hook of any TS era song.
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Big in the Sudetenland
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unrecordednight wrote:
yeah drop of sun plus it being on avey's account makes me think it is solo stuff

Time Skiffs credits list drop of sun for "additional recording" so I wouldn't be surprised if skiffs 2 was mixed or mastered there or something. Demos/out-takes would be very interesting too. Solo stuff feels less likely to me but really what do I know
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The artwork is quite Skiffs-esque... Bathing In Time Skiffs..?

No but could be anything. A lot of recording/mixing stuff with the whole band has come from Avey and/or Deakin's personal IG accounts rather than the AC one so I don't think that points to solo stuff necessarily. It also could be a producer and a mixing or mastering engineer in those seats, so they could well just be putting finishing touches on things (extra takes, mixing, mastering) for the new record.

Or maybe it is indeed some other stuff we don't know about. They wrote Skiffs/Skiffs 2 in 2018/2019 and we know how much non-AC Panda stuff is floating around, so given how much output Avey usually has, another solo joint wouldn't be that surprising.

Either way. SHIT IS HAPPENING AGAIN.
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Honestly don't think bits means anything more than bits. As in, look, these are bits of something.
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Honestly don't think bits means anything more than bits. As in, look, these are bits of something.

If that is building towards the artwork, it would be cool if the new album had "bits" in the title. Would also be cool if they yin-yanged the concept and made this one more full frontal media collages with just bits of colorful paper in, rather than the other way around on the Skiffs cover where the back is mostly the media collage.
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Wasn't he scheduled to play a festival in NorCal this summer? Can't find any info right now but I remember there was/is going to be an Avey Tare solo set in July or something.

Edit: Here it is. He was supposed to play June 10. He's no longer part of the lineup but he is listed on a previous version of the flyer.

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