[Goku]

This might get washed over amongst the tidal waves of PW hype but I figured I'd ask

I like to compensate for my lack of any real ability on guitar by experimenting with alternate tunings and a droning "all 6 strings nearly all the time" style, and I was wondering if there's anyone out there who's figured out exactly how to tune a guitar to have it sound like the feels guitar

[Fovrodi]

Folks on the old boards figured it out (correct me if I'm wrong)

Eb
G
Eb
G
B
Eb

It's actually how I have my guitar tuned all the time. Harmonics sound great in this tuning.

[jetski]

AC uses open guitar tunings on most of their stuff, Feels included, but the weird tuning they used on Feels wasn't really a guitar tuning in particular because they actually had to tune all the instruments that way. Basically the tuning for all the instruments on that album is slightly flat or sharp compared to the "regular" A440 Pitch Standard

I'm not really familiar with the specific tunings the band uses, so maybe someone else can help there. That tuning Fov posted looks right to me, except I think it's Bb rather B natural. If you want to try playing some open guitar tunings, here are some to get you started: http://sethares.engr.wisc.edu/alternate ... nings.html

It's possible that tuning your guitar outside of the typical Pitch Standard will make it sound different than usual, especially with acoustic guitars because they sort of resonate differently with different tunings, like Fov mentioned about the harmonics. But you don't necessarily have to tune to the Feels tuning in order to play in a "all 6 strings all the time" style

[Goku]

I mean, I've really delved into not just even open tunings, but stuff like Spirit Tuning and DADGAD and even once FAGDAD, and ostrich tuning, and I like to sort of get that drony resonance going. I was gonna experiment with the Feels Tuning and see what kind of neat shit I could do.

[Goku]

It's sort of like post-folky in a way, I'll finger 2 or 3 frets up and down the scale and play "open" chords despite them not really even being musically correct, normally embracing dissonance

[coollodges]

I thought I read or heard somewhere that the guitars and whatever other instruments were tuned to an old piano(the one you hear all over the record) that was slightly off. Whenever I'm in the mood to play feels jams, I have to tune to open E, using the recordings as my base. I think that might be why fov posted open Eb tuning, because it's sort of inbetween E and Eb once you have it tuned to the songs.

[Fovrodi]

Yep

wrote:

Geologist: "all the songs on feels are tuned to our friends piano which was out of tune to begin with. dave and i made loops from recordings of him playing her piano and we used those loops in the early songwriting process for feels. so since those loops are premade and can't be tuned, the guitars have to be tuned to the loops. it's not out of tune in any tradional whole step/half step kind of way...we're talking microtonally out of tune after years of not being professionally tuned and subtle natural detuning. kind of like if you played guitar in standard tuning for years but never once re-tuned it to make sure it was right. it would have it's own unique out-of-tune tuning based on what strings you played most often, how hard you played it, the temperature in the room, the humidity, etc...when we went into the studio it ruled over everything we did. even doctess's live piano playing required us bringing in a professional piano tuner, playing him a minidisc recording of our friend's out of tune piano, and having him try to de-tune the studio's piano in exactly the same way our friend's was. without those recordings or the loops dave and i made, you wouldn't be able to get it exact unless you tune to the album while it's playing, and even then, you'd have to know which loop in the album we use to tune, which one chord it is, and because of the way we mixed the loop in, it is almost impossible to separate from dave's guitar. i'll never forget when the tuner finished (we had to wait to start recording until he finished) and he stood up from the bench and went "there you go, the piano's perfectly out of tune."

[coollodges]

that's a bingo! ^^ thanks

[Gool Aid]

cant even believe avey tare wrote this album

[Gool Aid]

i never noticed that all thos dingy sounds are a triangle im pretty sure!!! i love the triangle!!!! like in loch raven and in the beginning of grass 0_0

[Gool Aid]

need to get a triangle i think

[weirdradio]

Haha that is cool, I was just listening to Loch Raven and was wondering what made it so twinkly. Alternate tunings are whats up. I just started experimenting with a432 and idk if I'll ever go back to standard. Will def mess around with this "feels" tuning