Collected Animals • Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

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Post **Posted:** Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:12 am

So has anyone been able to decipher the lyrics for Panda's rework of Cheap Treat?

Post **Posted:** Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:07 pm

"Don't ask why" is the first lyric I can make out.

I think he says "Watch it come on down, it's the end".
And then right after that, before the chorus he sings: "And the cycle starts again, bring it down."

The chorus is something like: "First let me, if you stole[?] its ability, don't act like it went away, another chance to make it clean."

"I want a [????], but only if there's no surprise x2"

That's everything I can get.

Post **Posted:** Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:10 pm

My opinion of the remix EP is 'another load of shit AC remixes I'll never listen to more than once'. I like the 'ugh' sample in the Pete Rock 'remix'. Container remix is Fruity Loops 3.7 quality from 2001 when my mum used to wake me up by shouting 'GET A JOB' every morning. The Danny Harle remix gets no further comment. Stott is good, and has nothing to do with the original track. Good if you like Andy Stott. Danny Harle, I can only imagine is good if you like Danny Harle. Say your prayers if you do. The other one is like a season ending injury. Why do they evebeven bother with these things?

Post **Posted:** Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:45 pm

Stanshant wrote:

The Danny Harle remix gets no further comment.

lol Stan

If it helps your opinion of him at all, Container is actually all-analog afaik - drum machines, tape loops etc. he's not just a punk kid who downloaded some free music software

also, I'll agree w u that the Pete Rock remix is simple, but... it's Pete Rock!! I mean, the dude flipped the samples for the Jazz (We've Got) beat. He's pretty notable

As for the question of why even bother with these remixes? I know that PB himself says he digs Andy Stott and Container (and probably the other 3 too), so it's cool for fans to get a lil taste of his favorite artists while also hearing a couple of new takes on the Greaper jams. Obviously tho these remixes aren't your thing and that's cool. I don't mean to try and say you're wrong, just offer a different perspective

Post **Posted:** Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:57 pm

I'm likely wrong, I'm probably just too rigid in my ways now, even though I feel like I have a good point generally.

Post **Posted:** Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:34 pm

Stanshant wrote:

even though I feel like I have a good point generally.

Post **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:10 am

Post **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:59 am

Container and Pete rock remixes are dank, but DJ Marfox I can't get into.

Remixes in general I have a hard time finding compelling, but I'm pretty happy with the selection here

Post **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:01 am

honestly I find Stan's comments hilarious. Fruity Loops 3.7 lol

Post **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:33 am

I'm not big on remixes either. Can take or leave them unless they blow my socks off.

Post **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:01 pm

the container one is soooo goood thooo

the way he mixed up the vocals is so fresh

Post **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:31 pm

yeah I'm really into the container track too

Post **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:34 pm

certified dope remix EP

Post **Posted:** Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:58 pm

demonclusters wrote:

certified NOPE remix EP

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:37 am

e-pee

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:33 am

Stanshant wrote:

demonclusters wrote:
certified NOPE remix EP

fuk u stanshant

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:26 am

nah stanshant rules

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:05 am

Most negative dude on this board though

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:04 pm

guys it's not Stan's fault. Don't u know the remix EP was produced by Ben h allen?

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:07 pm

stan is the negativity king, in the CHz thread I recall a particularly scathing review of Wide Eyed, many many jabs at ben h allen and a worryingly insulting comment about Avey's sickness

It's a nice balance.
Except for that last part.
Come on Stan.

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:44 pm

I did also do a re-review of CHz featuring Gotham, Crimson and Honeycomb and removing Wide Eyed, Father Time and Monkey Riches which I concluded was a great album and more in line with what they'd said they were going for. I'm only negative about Jammaster Benny and he's probably a real nice guy at heart. If I am the negativity king, I will abdicate.

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:42 pm

wonder what stanshant produced by ben allen would comment like

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:51 pm

hahaha

a speech burrito exploding all over your consciousness.

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:25 pm

earthly wrote:

wonder what stanshant produced by ben allen would comment like

PROBABLY ALL CAPS AND FUCKING SLEDGEHAMMER EVERY SINGLE POINT JUST IN CASE SOME c*** DOESN'T GET IT

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:36 pm

Sonic boom wrote:

....funny how people rag or praise the supposed mixer/producer/engineer
....usually erroneously ......

What part of MPP was a sledgehammer?

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:01 pm

Stanshant wrote:

earthly wrote:
wonder what stanshant produced by ben allen would comment like

PROBABLY ALL CAPS AND FUCKING SLEDGEHAMMER EVERY SINGLE POINT JUST IN CASE SOME c*** DOESN'T GET IT

I didn't even know Ben Allen produced MPP. That album is fucking SPOT ON. Honestly I'm learning to love the production on Centipede. Of course it would be cool to see a change in producer but I have no ill will towards Ben Allen.

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:40 pm

Yeah how could anybody hate the production on MPP? People in here always talk about how he ruined taste and my girls but I've heard the early boots of those two and they sound really similar to the final product

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:39 am

first listened to the GR boots 2 years ago today...hard to believe it's been that long, dang

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:52 am

kingo wrote:

Yeah how could anybody hate the production on MPP? People in here always talk about how he ruined taste and my girls but I've heard the early boots of those two and they sound really similar to the final product

I'm really curious as to what people think of Brother Sport before and after. I came in after MPP and I, of course, adore the song. But I can see myself not digging it too hard (at least at first) if I'd been listening to the boots.

Also, I think it's a whole different kettle of fish listening to the boots after you've listened to the finished product. Personally, I think there's a world of difference between bootleg Taste and album Taste. I'd imagine hearing it on MPP for the first time would've been a kick in the teeth.

In the end though it isn't right to rag on the producer. The band members give the final OK. It's not like they all secretly hate Ben Allen as well cos he ruined their songs. Ho-hup

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:55 am

Yeah they obviously like Ben Allen if they've let him do TWO of their albums

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:37 am

MPP is my fav AC album
CHZ is my least fav

love ben allen because he helped to put together my fav ac album.

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:19 am

Tropic of Cans wrote:

kingo wrote:
Yeah how could anybody hate the production on MPP? People in here always talk about how he ruined taste and my girls but I've heard the early boots of those two and they sound really similar to the final product

I'm really curious as to what people think of Brother Sport before and after. I came in after MPP and I, of course, adore the song. But I can see myself not digging it too hard (at least at first) if I'd been listening to the boots.

i found album Brosport to be the one song that was basically RUINED/improved when it first came out. it's taken me years to get over my grief/sky-high expectations for that one. I can dig it now. but yeah, the boot had so much more life in so many ways.

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:29 am

how does ben allen somehow get brought up in every thread

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:21 pm

Vovenarg wrote:

Tropic of Cans wrote:
kingo wrote:
Yeah how could anybody hate the production on MPP? People in here always talk about how he ruined taste and my girls but I've heard the early boots of those two and they sound really similar to the final product

I'm really curious as to what people think of Brother Sport before and after. I came in after MPP and I, of course, adore the song. But I can see myself not digging it too hard (at least at first) if I'd been listening to the boots.

i found album Brosport to be the one song that was basically RUINED/improved when it first came out. it's taken me years to get over my grief/sky-high expectations for that one. I can dig it now. but yeah, the boot had so much more life in so many ways.

i mostly agree with the above. the avey screams got so muted on the LP version compared to the energy that they had live, plus it also doesn't feel like the song jams out nearly as hard at any point as the live versions and also it ends really quickly. but i remember looking at the track length of the LP version before ever hearing it and already being slightly disappointed that they had cut it down to under 6 minutes. all of that being said, I've grown to love the lp version in 6.5 years, but would still go back to 07 versions any day

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:24 pm

I was never really too let down about brosport. While I do agree that the visceral energy of the live version was lost on the album, it was never too upsetting to me. I love the vocal mixing on the album aside from the screams, and the song as a whole is my favorite from the era. Idk I'm over it

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:13 pm

Andrew_VB wrote:

how does ben allen somehow get brought up in every thread

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:26 pm

He's the Mark Chapman of Animal Collective, metaphorically.

Post **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:29 pm

I'm terrified I'll listen to the upcoming boots. I both really, really do and do not want to.

Post **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:08 am

Why is listening to boots here considered so dirty?

Post **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:54 pm

It's not necessarily considered dirty or "wrong", there's just the very real possibility of listening to the boots too much before the actual album comes out and wearing out the songs

also between the time that AC plays a song live for the first time an the time they record it, they'll often change it up, sometimes drastically. So if you get used to the way a song sounds on a bootleg, u may be setting yourself up to get disappointed by the studio version

This is obvs not true for everyone, I'm sure some can listen to the boots without spoiling the album experience. They're kind of separate worlds imo