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Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:36 pm

he's going to take a break, see the wife and kids, take a few walk, he deserves it. Our boy has been touring since 2013 !

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:07 pm

Well once he's done working he can get so stoned and take a walk out in the light drizzle

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:41 pm

I did not know he likes to smoke

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:50 pm

can't tell if you're joking or not, but I was quoting his lyrics from chores

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:56 pm

Texas Trill wrote:

PB looks like a normal 37 yr old dad. And he didn't play the night after his Pitchfork set, it was the night before, which was in retrospect a better show since the projection screen was above him and the strobes were 10x better in a dark room. Still thought his fest set was great though. Only qualm was that Come to your Senses shouldve been replaced with Mr. Noah or YCCOM to pump up the crowd more

On a side note, I would love if the new jams had some ambient Aphex Twin vibes to them. Very danceable and very melodic

Ah, my bad. I would have loved to see him the night before. I went to Pitchfork just for PB and I guess I was just slightly disappointed because nobody seemed as pumped as I was and my whole group was worried about my car being stolen (as it turns out, I parked the car, paid the attendant, and left my keys in the ignition with the car running; thankfully the attendant noticed and turned it off/locked the car).

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:03 pm

Dallou wrote:

I did not know he likes to smoke

Marijuana makes his day

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:53 pm

it was a lil joke, not a funny one but still I tried. I am not the best at AC jokes, some of you are heroes when it comes to those

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:01 pm

wrote:

Ah, my bad. I would have loved to see him the night before. I went to Pitchfork just for PB and I guess I was just slightly disappointed because nobody seemed as pumped as I was and my whole group was worried about my car being stolen (as it turns out, I parked the car, paid the attendant, and left my keys in the ignition with the car running; thankfully the attendant noticed and turned it off/locked the car).

Well I saw him at the Pitch festival in paris in 2013 and it was the same nobody was really into it.. But the songs were new so maybe there 's that

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:22 pm

Panda just doesn't do it for the festival crowd. It was the same back when he was playing Tomboy stuff at Pitchfork in 2010. Watching the stream of this last p4k set I thought Panda was killing it vocally and the set was full of bangers.

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:34 pm

it's gonna just be pandaveyologist all jamming on bass guitars together

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:35 pm

aveyesor

lol

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:01 pm

it's been 2 years, 10 months, and 17 days since CHz, dang. feels like it's been longer than that though. maybe cuz of slasher flicks/pbvsgr.

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:05 pm

I wonder if the gap since C Hz was part of the impetus for recording the album so soon after pbvsgr came out

like if they only started recording after Panda was completely done touring then we'd be talking about probably a >4 year gap between album releases, but it's probably gonna end up closer to 3 years

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:19 pm

yeah even for that reason I'm really glad they recorded so soon after writing

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:29 pm

if i remember correctly they played the first pre-chz show before tomboy came out

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:42 pm

tomboy came out like a day after

Post **Posted:** Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:09 pm

^yep it was literally a day after. petaluma show was 4/11/11 and tomboy was 4/12/11

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:29 am

if you count ODDSAC as an album, this has been the longest gap between AC records

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:01 am

yup. hopefully it will be out in the first half of next year or it will be the biggest gap even between their usual albums.

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:43 am

a surprise release would be so incredible

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:55 am

eh i'd much rather have a specific release date to be hyped about. especially if it didn't freebird, although it seems like domino has been having progressively worse luck with those.
the hype cycle for chz was ideal tbh. announcement + new website + weekly broadcasts w sick guests + single + music video + everyone hearing the album stream at the same time. gr8 stuff

I really can't see them doing a surprise release anyway tbh

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:45 am

yeah I don't think it's likely either. and I do also love their album rollouts

I'm just selfish and wanna hear the music already

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:08 am

I could see them doing a surprise single tho. Remember Honeycomb/Gotham? That shit truly came out of nowhere.

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:17 am

what if they did what pb did for pbvsgr and dropped an EP with the announcement?!

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:36 am

Long time AnCo fan and lurker of the forums. First post....

Anyone else hoping that Avey Tare is less prominent on the next album? I think Panda Bear has retained a better sense of how to write music that has a more lasting quality.... if that makes sense. CHZ to me feels like they gave Avey full reign, and it felt very similiar in sound to what turned out to be Slasher Flicks and prior to that Down There. I think CHZ suffered from this personally... and I was relieved Panda Bear's latest album didn't struggle with the same flaws...

I'm really hoping for a proper followup to MPP.... I think this is an important time for the band, they essentially have to show us that they are capable of innovating and creating good music even after a miss step. Like look at David Bowie or Kevin Barnes discography and you'll see they have had several peaks. I'm hoping AnCo can still give us something like Feels, MPP, Strawberry Jam, Fall Be Kind... I hope they can give us something equal to that level of musical perfection....

Anyone else concerned?

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:10 am

In general I agree but avey on "new psycho actives vol. 1" was straight fire though...
But yeah, before CHZ I remember wanting something raw and powerful and avey from AC a la Strawberry Jam...this time around im hoping for something dubby, spacious, maybe a bit hip hop influenced...and as far as im concerned...panda would be the better "driving force" for the sound that im hoping for.
love avey though!

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:10 am

No. They have never let me down. I trust 'em. Not concerned one bit, but welcome.

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:37 am

Not supremely worried. AC has always sort of been Avey's baby since the beginning, and I think he's had a heavy role in every album ever since, both sonically and song writing-wise. I also would be surprised if the rest of the group wasn't taking notes on his style when they were all teens since he was writing hits like Penny since he was 16, so I see a lot of reflection in the way the others have written music.

I in fact feel very different about the songwriting though. Panda's got really good ideas most of the time, like Person Pitch is still such an amazing concept in both composition and execution, but lately his song structures have stagnated into the form intro sound + section A (verse) -> section B (chorus, maybe a coda), and back around till outro sound. Or at least, that's how it felt the entire way through PBvstGR.

I'm hoping for more Geo quite honestly. I think Geo really colored CHZ well, painting with very broad brushes of sound, and outside of ODDSAC, I think it showcased what Geo does well, and that's set a dense, complex atmosphere.

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:44 am

Catbus93 wrote:

I'm really hoping for a proper followup to MPP.... I think this is an important time for the band, they essentially have to show us that they are capable of innovating and creating good music even after a miss step. Like look at David Bowie or Kevin Barnes discography and you'll see they have had several peaks. I'm hoping AnCo can still give us something like Feels, MPP, Strawberry Jam, Fall Be Kind... I hope they can give us something equal to that level of musical perfection....

Anyone else concerned?

To be honnest the band does not have to show us anything, they do music for them self you know.

Why is Centiped a miss step ?

edit : that came out pretty agressive, not meant to be at all

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:43 am

I know they don't owe their listeners anything... I'm just voicing my personal opinion, specifically because I'm a fan.

I think CHZ is a miss step in the sense that it subverts the listener's expectation...? It's very ambitious with it's dense instrumentals. It's a progression in style that was incorporating a more aggressively textural sonic pallette... bands like Death Grips were also exploring this same space at the time. When I listen to the album this is what appeals to me a lot... However the songwriting doesn't retain a lot of weight with me after I listen, It doesn't have the timeless quality that keeps me returning to something like Tomboy or Feels or every previous AnCo release. I try to use the term timeless in an objective way, something that has a lot of replay-ability and catchy-ness. I can't put my thumb on it

I'm more reserved about the new album. Keeping my hopes high but expectations neutral. I think Avey's style since 2011 has really shifted towards something pretty different from the rest of the band's discography. Which kind of brings me back to why I'm hoping for the songwriting balance to be changed up for this new album.... I don't know man, I'm excited as hell for new stuff

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:47 am

Okay

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:57 am

I think Down There is better than C Hz and also anything Panda's ever done. Slasher Flicks was a huge letdown for me though.

I don't think Centipede subverted my expectations at all, I agree with Scooter.

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:29 pm

Catbus93 wrote:

Long time AnCo fan and lurker of the forums. First post....

Anyone else hoping that Avey Tare is less prominent on the next album? I think Panda Bear has retained a better sense of how to write music that has a more lasting quality.... if that makes sense. CHZ to me feels like they gave Avey full reign, and it felt very similiar in sound to what turned out to be Slasher Flicks and prior to that Down There. I think CHZ suffered from this personally... and I was relieved Panda Bear's latest album didn't struggle with the same flaws...

I'm really hoping for a proper followup to MPP.... I think this is an important time for the band, they essentially have to show us that they are capable of innovating and creating good music even after a miss step. Like look at David Bowie or Kevin Barnes discography and you'll see they have had several peaks. I'm hoping AnCo can still give us something like Feels, MPP, Strawberry Jam, Fall Be Kind... I hope they can give us something equal to that level of musical perfection....

Anyone else concerned?

Chz is my least favourite album and I've slaughtered it at times on here but I couldn't agree with you less. Nevertheless, welcome to the board and good to debate this stuff.

Animal Collective is Dave's band, full stop.

To say (in your following post) that Chz is ambitious, progressive and aggressively textural is just plain wrong, as is the assertion that Death Grips were exploring the same space. I genuinely laughed out loud at the comparison. Also, this description contradicts your wish that they demonstrate innovation (!), and do this by producing a follow-up to MPP (!!). I don't know what you're asking for and I disagree with your descriptions, except the request for innovation.

It's arguably the least ambitious and progressive Animal Collective album, featuring a checklist of sounds, vocal processing and production used elsewhere. If you want aggressive textures, take your pick of anything pre-Sung Tongs, basically.

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:38 pm

The Money Store does sound a bit like a windshield burrito to me at times

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:26 pm

delorean wrote:

avey on "new psycho actives vol. 1" was straight fire though...

this x 10000

I don't have any doubts about the new album, I trust them

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:42 pm

In Dave, Noah, and Brian we trust!

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:57 pm

Victor Borge wrote:

delorean wrote:
avey on "new psycho actives vol. 1" was straight fire though...

this x 10000

I don't have any doubts about the new album, I trust them

tbh, I hope it's similar to psycho actives. long, slow-burning sample-based songs, like a murkier person pitch.... i like the sound of that. but yeah, I have no doubts. it's animal collective. i mean come on

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:23 pm

i wasn't even that worried about the new album to begin with, but after listening to new psycho actives again i am beyond excited.

bring it on!

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:41 pm

could this be the album where 206/from a beach finally see the light of day?

Post **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:55 pm

i wish avey would chill out on this album. he is so uptight and full of tension and energy in CHz and slasher flicks.