[roopn]

I think lyrics are only on the back of the limited ed. lithograph

[nevermind]

dude the pitchfork cover story is amazing. how more likeable can this panda guy get????????w

also his explanation of tropic of cancer is eye opening. makes me look at the lyrics in different light

[roopn]

I am so ready for the CA shitstorm when Joe Biden pans the greaper

[partner]

Finally hearing the 320....like seeing god....Crosswords has never been so banging

[dervish]

there's a 320 now?

[rampface]

Hearing Tropic of Cancer in full quality without that little blip is so weird. Shouldn't have played the shitty freebird so much. This is beautiful!

[nevermind]

roopn wrote:

I am so ready for the CA shitstorm when Joe Biden pans the greaper

why do we care what he has to say again?

[songtungs]

Never realized Crosswords sampled this (per the liner notes):



Sample starts at 0:18

Such a cool drum break

[sertman]

nevermind wrote:

roopn wrote:

I am so ready for the CA shitstorm when Joe Biden pans the greaper

why do we care what he has to say again?

the same reason anybody cares what critics have to say about their favorite artists - the more people that listen to it with a positive or open mindset, the more people who like it, and the more people buy the album and panda gets the praise and accolades he deserves.

when i first started listening to animal collective (back before MPP was released) i didn't like it at all. it just didn't click. but i kept listening because critics from all over the spectrum kept heaping praise on them, which let me know there was something to it i was missing. lo and behold i was right and they've been my favorite band since. i had to make a LOT of adjustments to the way i perceived and saw music (and some of this came from experimenting with psychedelics) but it eventually happened.

if everyone said they sucked i most likely wouldn't have kept listening beyond my first listen. sorry i just don't have the time to give every single artist the time they deserve. if an album is widely acclaimed it gives me more of an incentive to keep going. if it doesn't click it doesn't click, obviously, but if a lot of people like an album there's probably a reason for that.

so if Joe Biden pans it that's just an entire subsection of people who probably won't give this album, or panda bear (if this is their first introduction to him) a chance, and that's sad. i want everyone to listen to panda bear, and thus i want the critics to praise it!

[Fovrodi]

Fuck the critics

Have a spine and enjoy what you like

[roopn]

has vodafone.fm played pricipe real yet? I'm listening now...

[bansheebeaten]

also the people that matter will trust your judgment over a music critic's! :}

public opinion isn't too important <3

[roopn]

oh wait here we go

[roopn]

woah this is so different! going to take some getting used to, but it's great. less sinister than it used to be I think

[roopn]

very dreamy

[dervish]

im glad my ears weren't lying to me when i said the 192 sounded like crap. even if everyone yelled at me. this new freebird sounds soooo much better. it's fucking incredible! what an amazing album. damn!

[zaltakid2000]

stereogum's "premature evaluation". didn't get "album of the week"...

preemee

[Gool Aid]

that was a really bad intro for a review.

edit: i think this was really the wrong dude to be reviewing anything AC related

[dervish]

zaltakid2000 wrote:

stereogum's "premature evaluation". didn't get "album of the week"...

preemee

but premature ejaculation has been confirmed

[jetski]

sertman wrote:

Spoiler: show

the same reason anybody cares what critics have to say about their favorite artists - the more people that listen to it with a positive or open mindset, the more people who like it, and the more people buy the album and panda gets the praise and accolades he deserves.

when i first started listening to animal collective (back before MPP was released) i didn't like it at all. it just didn't click. but i kept listening because critics from all over the spectrum kept heaping praise on them, which let me know there was something to it i was missing. lo and behold i was right and they've been my favorite band since. i had to make a LOT of adjustments to the way i perceived and saw music (and some of this came from experimenting with psychedelics) but it eventually happened.

if everyone said they sucked i most likely wouldn't have kept listening beyond my first listen. sorry i just don't have the time to give every single artist the time they deserve. if an album is widely acclaimed it gives me more of an incentive to keep going. if it doesn't click it doesn't click, obviously, but if a lot of people like an album there's probably a reason for that.

so if Joe Biden pans it that's just an entire subsection of people who probably won't give this album, or panda bear (if this is their first introduction to him) a chance, and that's sad. i want everyone to listen to panda bear, and thus i want the critics to praise it!

I think you make a lot of good points. I definitely think that ultimately, it's up to the listener themselves to decide what they do or don't like. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the initial decision to listen to something has to be made completely independently of anyone else's opinion. I mean, how many people out there probably only listened to AC or Panda Bear because of widespread critical acclaim? Probably a whole lot of people, if you ask me. There will always be people who seek to attach themselves to a trend purely out of a desire to seem cool or in-the-loop, but there are also a lot of people who use critics and reviews to find new music. It's these people's jobs to find and evaluate new music, so if you find a critic whose musical preferences are similar to yours, why wouldn't you pay attention to what they say? It saves you time and energy.

Critical appraisal is absolutely not a determinant in the value or worth of a piece music—like I said, I think that's up to the listener. But the right critic at the right time just might convince a skeptic to listen to something that they otherwise wouldn't have, which I think is a great thing. We could always use more open-minded music listeners.

Okay, sorry to go off-topic. Still haven't listened to this album in HQ, waiting til I get home from work

[El Camino]

zaltakid2000 wrote:

stereogum's "premature evaluation". didn't get "album of the week"...

preemee

gave up after that first sentence.

[El Camino]

I don't care what the dude likes or doesn't like but "vomiting through a fault line into hell"?

[El Camino]

Also great post Victor. Specific music critics have been really important towards me finding some of my favourite music, you can find ones that align with a lot of music you're into and you can get into heaps of stuff from there.

Still think Pitchfork is generally rubbish though and you shouldn't hold much stock in album reviews by themselves.


I should really listen to this album again.

[michael]

i kinda like most of that stereogum review, ignoring the first line but w/e let reviewers have fun. i rly liked the comparisons with pta and i liked how they spoke about panda bear's work as being 'cerebral' (even negatively) which i don't think gets enough credit bc the focus is usually on 'brian wilson' and 'psych pop'. and i think it's a little unfair to say he is repeating himself or that the album is panda bear doing panda bear and falling into panda bear cliches, bc i rly think there seems to be an acknowledgement and avoidance of those cliches. and i think any instance of 'panda bear doing panda bear' is v intentional (mr noah) and v in keeping with the themes of the record.

[Sonic boom]

< < < < < << < <>^><^<>^><*<>^><^ > > > > > > > <

Hey Pals....!
So psyched u gurls r hoofing fun ...!
Panda parade just getting up to speed !...... woo hoo !

not too long before the next round of Ore.... count it in howers !
??..a goldilox zon for you guys to chill.......??
................! Hole river of streams !
no less....... And we'll give you the quays ...
....or at least the address ..... (and make sure most the doors are open......)

Psssst.... ! listen !
....Look out later too day for more ex tensions ex cursions of the GZ trip ..
.......one train in , the next goes out !....
.....I told u guise ....
EXPEYTK TJH UNEXPZVTEX xpetek

<<<<<<<<<<<<<\/\/\/\/\/\^^^^^^^\/\/\/\/\/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Ethmin]

lol you're the best petek

just curious, which song was "Deadmaus thing"?

[memememe]

Album stream? Something surprising?

[faded arrow]

Ethmin wrote:

lol you're the best petek

just curious, which song was "Deadmaus thing"?

I think that little demo got cut but reporters have enjoyed saying Panda once had a thing called "Deadmaus thing"

Also really hoping petek's talking about a Danny Perez visual stream for later tonight!

[Sonic boom]

Ethmin wrote:

lol you're the best petek

just curious, which song was "Deadmaus thing"?

nope...wrong again !
u dont like my artwurk ???????

'deadmaus' ? hmmm....
I have no idea ......
...il Nobbo had the names u know as working titles from the git-go....
in my experience those working titles (' neu song' ' S3 jam' 'kraftwerk fandango 'etc mean more to the composer..) . cos no-one REALLY goes out to ape , right.......
too much munkey bizniss !

that pre-tix mix of his other jamz will emerge......
.....but buncha more relevant ore due bef ore....
....you'll see........we hope u dig it ...

say , whats the next numbers in this series & i'll deal out some more jazz for yu ?
or gimme one word for the last number that answers the riddle
1 , 3 , 5 , 4 , 4 , 4 ? ? ?

have high expectations !

[Sonic boom]

memememe wrote:

Album stream? Something surprising?

getting warmer.....

[tender]

Next number is 0???

[Sonic boom]

cloud909 wrote:

panda will come to my house and personally sing me a show in my living room????
thanks sonic!!

nooooooooo!! u have to go see the shows.....!!!

......or keep yr eyes peeled meanwhile....

nope - next number not zero !

[jetski]

Sonic boom wrote:

memememe wrote:

Album stream? Something surprising?

getting warmer.....

Album stream + visuals??

[zaltakid2000]

Sonic boom wrote:

in my experience those working titles (' neu song' ' S3 jam' 'kraftwerk fandango 'etc mean more to the composer..) . cos no-one REALLY goes out to ape , right.......

i seem to recall a band with tracks named... bo diddley jam, suicide, velvet jam, etc. etc.

they were kinda the best though so....

[JohnsonNoise]

FUCK

[SlashingGoodTime]

4...... the soul?

[Sonic boom]

Victor_Borge wrote:

Sonic boom wrote:

memememe wrote:

Album stream? Something surprising?

getting warmer.....

Album stream + visuals??

nope .....
.....but your not totally off.....


whaaaaaat ! hmm.....Zaltakid 2000......yr truble i see ha ....
even i know Bo Diddley , suicide et al are meta beings ....we were just goofing around in their shadows..
u know that !

[Sonic boom]

SlashingGoodTime wrote:

4...... the soul?

yes , 4
but the next ?? and why ?

and what would be the word you could apply to the last digit to solve the sequence ?

[Sonic boom]

scarybaeri wrote:

video game

....hmmmm.....
.......nope....

whoops ! time for tea !

[jetski]

Confirmed PB on Coachella lineup

http://pitchfork.com/news/57966-coachel ... announced/