[rpbpt]

I get chills every time mustache man looks up at him with those mind blown eyes (I know the feeling!!).... Such an amazing video.. nailed the vibe of spiritual/psychedelic growth and maturity.

[jetski]

I was searching for Panda Bear articles on twitter and I struck gold: This Baltimore City Paper piece features a quote from Noah on why he titled the song Boys Latin.

Panda Bear wrote:

i like to title songs and other things with names of places and areas that have meant something to me. its intended as a suggestion, kind of like leaving a trail of breadcrumbs which lead (hopefully) toward a greater understanding of my experience and, consequentially, a deeper understanding of the music. i grew up not so far from the boys latin school and can remember driving by the sign regularly. i suppose its just one of those things thats stuck with me. in the context of the song, the title is an attempt to evoke the idea of an instinctual and primal language, or a pure tongue.

[moop]

I love how anxious Butcher Baker Candlestick Maker is. GOD MY GOD! GRIB THIS, GRAB THAT! And then Boys Latin is just pure mad crazy town.

[lucasmoreira]

sideways ponytails wrote:

neat FADER spot :: http://www.thefader.com/2014/12/15/what ... rry-around

Imodium.... nice to know that noah is carrying a laxative on his pocket all the time

like a sinking ship on the ocean right?

[Tropic]

Video is sweet. I don't usually dig AC videos but this one was spot on. Banshee's interpretation is sweet.

[Natalidae]

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[SlashingGoodTime]

Natalidae wrote:

Victor_Borge wrote:

I was searching for Panda Bear articles on twitter and I struck gold: This Baltimore City Paper piece features a quote from Noah on why he titled the song Boys Latin.

Panda Bear wrote:

i like to title songs and other things with names of places and areas that have meant something to me. its intended as a suggestion, kind of like leaving a trail of breadcrumbs which lead (hopefully) toward a greater understanding of my experience and, consequentially, a deeper understanding of the music. i grew up not so far from the boys latin school and can remember driving by the sign regularly. i suppose its just one of those things thats stuck with me. in the context of the song, the title is an attempt to evoke the idea of an instinctual and primal language, or a pure tongue.

wait a minute, that source mentions a particular haircut (a Baltimore Lacrosses' Mullet, the 'Balti') that became notorious because of that school & the main guy in the video has one! ha!

Spoiler: show

[Zero Cool]

Boys Latin Video - The Best Birthday Present

it's outstanding, splendid, superb...

Sonic boom wrote:

.......it actually speaks too !
Mostly it Sez. 'Youre so COOL !'

PS

I'm so used to travel and seeing the things Noah carries I've realized that are similar to the ones that I always carry. I just need that Teenage Engineering OP-1

[rpbpt]

Love the part of the vid next to the pond.. After that kind of experience everything else just seems uneventful. Even the crab tries to do a little jig for him but it doesn't seem to arouse any interest. I know the feeling!!

[highfive]

kbakz wrote:

Boys Latin BNTd on P4k
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/172 ... oys-latin/

I know it's old news to complain about Ian Cohen, but... seriously, wtf is he blathering on about?

[yoyoyoyoy]

P4k's it's ok write-up mentions "lennox's beloved grateful dead or phish"

I didn't think he was a jam-fan? Thought that was just Dave and Brian

[cody]

interesting that at the start of the music video everything in the environment seems really foggy and lacking color and by the end the clouds and sky are full of color and everything is clear.

[dervish]

highfive wrote:

kbakz wrote:

Boys Latin BNTd on P4k
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/172 ... oys-latin/

I know it's old news to complain about Ian Cohen, but... seriously, wtf is he blathering on about?

haha lol. i thought the same thing. wtf am i reading?

wrote:

...usually the only real unifier between the freaks and jocks in high school before they put on their public act of being sworn enemies again.

wut

[MossMain]

yoyoyoyoy wrote:

P4k's it's ok write-up mentions "lennox's beloved grateful dead or phish"

I didn't think he was a jam-fan? Thought that was just Dave and Brian

Yeah . Your right. I remember an interview (wandering wolf?) wher Dave said that him and Brian were the big fans of GD and he said that he never got into phish so I dont know where phish came from...
Dave also said that Noah only liked american beauty or something like that..

[jetski]

^I seem to remember that quote about Noah only really liking AB as well. I think it might be in the CA2 Q&A, not sure tho

Actually really curious if there's any chance the main character in the video purposefully has that "Balti" haricut or if it's just a coincidence. Funny connection either way

[faded arrow]

highfive wrote:

kbakz wrote:

Boys Latin BNTd on P4k
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/172 ... oys-latin/

I know it's old news to complain about Ian Cohen, but... seriously, wtf is he blathering on about?

Ian Cohen is only good for handing out 6s and going on and on about nothing

[jetski]

I don't follow the entire analysis, but I respect Ian Cohen's right to interpret the song as he will. I'm mostly just annoyed that he said the song is "great accompaniment...for recreational drug use". Sure, it might be true, but the more it's brought up, the more it perpetuates the myth that you have to do drugs to enjoy PB or AC, which is patently false

[dud]

^agreed

[bansheebeaten]

Victor_Borge wrote:

I don't follow the entire analysis, but I respect Ian Cohen's right to interpret the song as he will. I'm mostly just annoyed that he said the song is "great accompaniment...for recreational drug use". Sure, it might be true, but the more it's brought up, the more it perpetuates the myth that you have to do drugs to enjoy PB or AC, which is patently false

yeah.. I think that's such a dismissive simplification of the song and the depth of the lyrics.

[Cub B.L.]

<--- updated my avatar!

[Om_Thanks_666]

am i the only one who got the vibe that the child was almost created by these two blokes?? reading about the mustache man being noahs father rings really true, maybe its supposed to show a combination of the two (i forgot how old noahs dad was when he died..) now raising his son? like, hes pandas son.. but hes also pandas dad son because noah carries him so beautifully

idk, maybe thats just a rehash of what everyones already been saying

[Om_Thanks_666]

basically when i first saw the video i thought the two guys were kind of like a couple lol and them having both touched this flower thing rubbed a lil bit of each of them off in there and made a little boy. i dont think the song is named for the school or anything, im trying to figure the interpretation of "latin" in the title

[Om_Thanks_666]

perhaps something to do with a common root??? ill keep mulling as if it actually matters lol

[Cussing Bum]

When the growths started sprouting up, I instantly thought tumor. And then when the long-haired guy saw the older guy lying there, he seemed like he was helpless to save him and just had to let him go through it on his own. And then the last shot definitely evoked a three generations feel to me. But I dunno.

I enjoy hearing all the different interpretations.

[jetski]

Om_Thanks wrote:

i dont think the song is named for the school or anything, im trying to figure the interpretation of "latin" in the title

The song is named after the school, but not because the song is about the school or anything, just because it was a name familiar to Noah. Check the quote I posted above, he explains why he called the song Boys Latin:

Panda Bear wrote:

i like to title songs and other things with names of places and areas that have meant something to me. its intended as a suggestion, kind of like leaving a trail of breadcrumbs which lead (hopefully) toward a greater understanding of my experience and, consequentially, a deeper understanding of the music. i grew up not so far from the boys latin school and can remember driving by the sign regularly. i suppose its just one of those things thats stuck with me. in the context of the song, the title is an attempt to evoke the idea of an instinctual and primal language, or a pure tongue.

So I guess you're not far off with the idea of a common root. Quote is from here: http://www.citypaper.com/blogs/noise/bc ... 2007.story

[Om_Thanks_666]

O, damn.. thats a lot like the way anco makes song names while theyre touring, legit. thanks mang! missed that lol thread explosion

[mikepthe11]

...just watched the video again and this part of banshee's insight rang true with me during the rewatch..

wrote:

"I think the change/transformation aspect is so captivating... and I relate to it a lot. the emotions were so easy to see in the animation, like when the main character went through the initial shock of experiencing change (the sea squirt blobs) he was terrified, but then settled into a resolve, walking steadily through his new life and problems.. and then they subsided. when he found someone else strugling just like he had.."

...i would almost go as far as to say that after the main character has his solo experience of color and sits by the waterside, it's as if he's going through the sadness of the reality comedown...what goes up, must come down, right?...and as this happens, the "dark cloud, descended again..." lyric comes in right on cue and then eventually "a shadow, moves in..." and an actual shadow casts an even darker shroud on the scene...(LOVE it)...

[sertman]

Victor_Borge wrote:

I don't follow the entire analysis, but I respect Ian Cohen's right to interpret the song as he will. I'm mostly just annoyed that he said the song is "great accompaniment...for recreational drug use". Sure, it might be true, but the more it's brought up, the more it perpetuates the myth that you have to do drugs to enjoy PB or AC, which is patently false

I would imagine that for *most* people, it is tough to access PB and AC music without their perspective being at least priorly informed by drug use. Obviously that's not true for everyone, and some people just are naturally able to be into this kind of stuff, but for AC and PB specifically it totally helps to have been informed by psychedelics. in my own anecdotal experience, most of the people who I know that are into AC have used drugs, and most who loathe them have been square their whole life. and in my own anecdotal experience, i was not into ANY experimental music at all until I started experimenting with that kind of stuff... I wish it wasn't the case but that's sort of the reality of it for me.. both projects make music that you need a special kind of ear to appreciate, as well as a certain intrinsic need to experience vastly different perspectives that aren't immediately palletable and easy to listen to.. i can't imagine too many completely sober people picking up spirit they've gone and being super stoked about it! but there are some really, REALLY smart people on this board who absolutely did not need drugs to appreciate AnCo... i envy you!! i wish i naturally felt the way that PB and AnCo make you feel!

so at least for me it wasn't that big of a deal that Cohen barely referenced it, although i appreciate that AnCo themselves and some of their sober fans wish to distance themselves from that kind of thing. i have a problem with the broad anti-drug stigma many people have anyway... but that's a different story i think ian cohen has his moments where he talks about nothing but also moments where he's a brilliant writer who has a very culturally-oriented perspective about music, which i like. when it comes to anco on pitchfork though i'd rather mark richardson do the writing about them

Hiff Cluxtable wrote:

When the growths started sprouting up, I instantly thought tumor. And then when the long-haired guy saw the older guy lying there, he seemed like he was helpless to save him and just had to let him go through it on his own. And then the last shot definitely evoked a three generations feel to me. But I dunno.

I enjoy hearing all the different interpretations.

yeah that's how i saw it too, it just has too many parallels to that situation for panda for it to be coincidental in my eyes. banshee's analysis is also really good!

[jetski]

^Great post, and I totally get what you're saying. I'll be the first to admit that there are some records in AC's discog, Spirit being one of them, that went down a lot easier after I heard them while under the influence. I def agree with what you said about the way it takes a special ear to appreciate experimental music. It just takes something, some sort of impetus that causes it to "click" for someone, I think. That impetus could be drugs, or it could be something else, or (like you said) you could just be born that way. And that's the other nice thing, is that once it sort of clicks, you don't have to be high every time you listen. At least not for me—once it clicked for me, I was listening to tons and tons of AC, and probably 95% of my listening was while sober.

I also feel the same way about Ian Cohen. I've liked a number of his reviews, though not all of them. Even when I don't like his style, I will admit that the dude knows a HUGE amount of music. And yeah, Mark Richardson's reviews are great. His passion for AC comes thru in his writing. I wonder who's gonna do P4k's review of the Greaper next month?

[paralleoneirdwell]

a thought at the moment; it is one of the most human and most cosmic music video artworks in existence!

i like thinking that this is perhaps part of the story in the large book being read in the video artwork for Mr Noah!
and, actually there are many unique connecting points, potential but maybe not completely, between some of the ideas present here and the video artwork for
Monkey riches, Oliver twist, and some parts of the Centipede Hz original complete video artwork by Abby! (the different portal or cosmic tunnel spaces created) I think there may be more, what can you think of?

[bansheebeaten]

sertman wrote:

I would imagine that for *most* people, it is tough to access PB and AC music without their perspective being at least priorly informed by drug use. Obviously that's not true for everyone, and some people just are naturally able to be into this kind of stuff, but for AC and PB specifically it totally helps to have been informed by psychedelics. in my own anecdotal experience, most of the people who I know that are into AC have used drugs, and most who loathe them have been square their whole life. and in my own anecdotal experience, i was not into ANY experimental music at all until I started experimenting with that kind of stuff... I wish it wasn't the case but that's sort of the reality of it for me.. both projects make music that you need a special kind of ear to appreciate, as well as a certain intrinsic need to experience vastly different perspectives that aren't immediately palletable and easy to listen to.. i can't imagine too many completely sober people picking up spirit they've gone and being super stoked about it! but there are some really, REALLY smart people on this board who absolutely did not need drugs to appreciate AnCo... i envy you!! i wish i naturally felt the way that PB and AnCo make you feel!

I just.. don't really see this. or at least have experienced the opposite. a lot of my irl friends that are into AC or PB aren't influenced by psychadelics at all. I, too, am not. and I love spirit. I love it all! on a deep level, and I don't think I've ever listened to it while smoking or tripping. my most emphatic attachments to AC music have all been in times of full clarity, connecting with the lyrics or sounds through my own emotions/experience. not saying that I wouldn't also enjoy them while tripping (I look forward to it when I'm able) but I don't think it's the norm that they can't be fully appreciated without drugs.

drug shrug. back to video talk

[Vovenarg]

i've only smoked 2 times in my life and never done any other drugs bsides liquor n caffeine n sugar (lots of it).
and i'm the biggest ac fan YOU'VE EVER SEEN

COME AT ME AC WANNABE FANS

[MFpotus]

I didn't get into AC because of drugs, but I could make a case that it was the other way around..

I think it's a stereotype about the music and the fan base which is too bad, because honestly there's so much goodness beneath the surface and when you start slapping labels around like 'drug music' it's gonna turn a lot of people away.

[meys]

i'm usually more of a drinking guy and no substance has really informed my enjoyment of PB or AC or any experimental music - it's all just beautiful, plain and simple!

[Enn Eye]

I guess dark clouds sounds ominous but that's just us over-thinking it right?

Beasts don't think like that.
I've seen cows just standing there chewing in the rain.

There's got to be storms to appreciate sunshine right?

The cycle of change is natural and part of all of us.....

Dunno quite where I'm going with this

[Fovrodi]

I listened to AC for years before I tried any substance. I've enjoyed it with family and friends without any of us on anything. I'll add that I have plenty of friends who smoke and can't stand AC, even when it comes to the more "accessible" stuff. Taste isn't some static and essential thing, but you're definitely treating it that way if you're arguing that it takes psychedelics to like a certain band.

[sertman]

Fovrodi wrote:

I listened to AC for years before I tried any substance. I've enjoyed it with family and friends without any of us on anything. I'll add that I have plenty of friends who smoke and can't stand AC, even when it comes to the more "accessible" stuff. Taste isn't some static and essential thing, but you're definitely treating it that way if you're arguing that it takes psychedelics to like a certain band.

i went through great pains to not say that...

[Takyon]

It's kinda a shame that this song+video had to be released at the same time as D'Angelo's comeback and Modest Mouse's most recent single. It's one of Noah's best hooks and hopefully it has the potential to catch fire.

[Vince Noir]

once I listened to CHz in a huge bath with a bath bomb while on 3 hits of LSD

[Dallou]

wrote:

It's kinda a shame that this song+video had to be released at the same time as D'Angelo's comeback and Modest Mouse's most recent single. It's one of Noah's best hooks and hopefully it has the potential to catch fire.

It won't "hurt" him I think, since the adult swim stream really introduced his music to a lot of people which is even more important than pitchfork, stereogum or gorilla vs bear writing about him.